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the fiscal cliff, lawmakers are pointing fingers and playing the blame game. >> mario monti is saying he's available to lead italy. he'll run for office in the upcoming election, but only for a party willing to push his agenda. >>> but he has competition in the form of sylvia berlusconi. he tells cnbc he feels a responsibility to run. >> feel the need to return to the political arena to prevent the country from being delivered into the hands of a leftist party. >> and the crowds are out, the stores are ringing up those sales, but u.s. shoppers may be running low on holiday spirit. and analysts say that they're spending less, as well. hi, everybody. welcome. merry christmas out there. thank you for joining us here on the show. what we're looking at today, we've got slightly quiet markets ahead of the u.s. open. what we're seeing, though, that all the markets are being called lower across the board stateside. the dow is being called a bit lower, nasdaq is being called a bit lower and the s&p 500 being called down by a bybit, as well. we saw markets coming off on friday stateside. pretty si

sector. and hoping to catch more of the housing uprise. but with the fiscal cliff looming, i was wondering if you would advise more defenseless strategy like consumer staples or something going into the new year. >> what i was thinking i told a friend of mine today conagra reported an amazing number. that's the kind of thing i would think about. nice yield. good growth. i think that's the best idea. why don't we go to brooks in ohio. brooks was here. brooks? >> caller: my question is about abbott, the split, how's it going down and which side are you on? >> good news today. the split will be included in the s&p which is why it was up. abbott is going higher. that's why my travel trust owns it. things seem dysfunctional in washington but even now it's better to be a buyer than a seller if you know where to look. "mad money" will be right back. >> announcer: coming up, the world is overflowing with information and tibco helps make sense of ones and zeros. while the market is up nice for the year, its stock is now down big. does today's turn to the green mean it's time to logon

. the new year and the so-called fiscal cliff. for the record, though, it's about 178 hours away if we're getting down to the wire. that's specifically. how much negotiating can be squeezed in to that little bit of time? >>> new numbers on whether exist consumers are buying less. >>> and just in time for the holiday, a christmas storm expecting to hit the midwest. when, where and how much snoi is expected. we bring the answers in minutes. >>> we start with optimism as a last words that comes to mind with the fiscal cliff and with just a week left for talks left, la lawmakers are saying a deal is looking less likely than ever. >> it's a first time i feel it's more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. and that -- if we allow that to happen it will be the most coloss colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. maybe ever in american history because of the immaterial pact on almost every single american. >> what will happen to an average american paycheck in a deal is not reached by january 1st? joining me now, washington bureau correspondent hamp

for the holidays and the president is on vacation in hawaii while the fiscal cliff creeps ever closer. will there be a big new years resolution? plus -- >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> the head of the nra speaks out exclusively to nbc news intensifying the emotionally charged debate on gun control. it's monday, december 24th. welcome to this special edition of "m schsnb"msnbc." as for president obama and john boehner, they are miles apart. neither are them talking about the deal the country really needs. kristin, we were talking yesterday that there's a possibility the president was considering coming back early perhaps thshould they strike a deal of some sort. >> i think it's likely president obama will cut his vacation short. we haven't gotten guidance about when that is going to happen. the white house is calling this a working vacation, but the reality is that talks are largely deadlocked over the fiscal cliff. there have been a few conversations going on at the staff level but really the

support in the house for his plan the proposal on the fiscal cliff has embarrassed the speaker, but the speaker's failure means a solution to the fiscal cliff is, if they're going to be one, now resting squarely upon president obama. arsine to be vacationing president alone cannot propose legislation that wins majority support in both the house and senate, and the decision to go over the fiscal cliff now depends on his ability to successfulully negotiate and to forge a compromise that appeals to both republicans and the far left in mr. obama's party. the president met with senate majority leader harry reid this afternoon and talked with speaker boehner to begin anew that eort to reach compromise. >> averting this middle-class tax hike is not a democratic responsibility or republican responsibility. with their foes the american people have determined that governing is a shared responsibility between both parties in this congress laws can only pass with support from democrats and republicans, and that means nobody gets 100 percent of what they want. lou: there are only ten days r

movement with regard to the lack of a solution on the fiscal cliff has been more of what we've seen not more of what we think we're going to see. i'm referring specifically to some of the special dividends, some of the tax issues, some of the buy backs, some of the way, you know, states and trusts are being manipulated and moved to deal with the potential worst case scenarios. i think in terms of the market our guests just referred to some of the volatility. you know, as congress called it a day or as the boehner bill didn't pass the plan b. but i remember the t.a.r.p. vote. that was some real movement. >> yes. >> we didn't have that type of movement. we still may. but i think in the end, i think especially the treasury markets focused on the bigger picture of all the issues that we need to address on reform and i think the equity markets definitely are fueled by some of those fed programs even though you know i'm not a big fan of them. >> you know what? it's interesting that you mention that. that is the expectation that we could see a move like we saw that day with t.a.r.p. when t

the fiscal cliff that includes no tax increases. sbainer boehner and other republican leaders have been too scared about suffering publicly if the nation goes over the cliff and the tax sbikeses that are triggered in january. now that the plan b has failed these conservative republicans should be empower you ared to make big demands and stop caving to the president out of fear." guest: that doesn't make much sense to me. you have to get it through the house republicans then the president has to sign something, if that doesn't happen then you have very large tax increases a lot more than what they were talking about in their negotiating and you have the defense cuts that happen overtime and some other, nondefense cuts. you really have this huge amount of revenue, a lot of debt reduction. it is hard to see what demands the republicans can think will be easier to make come the new year. guest: plus, we've seen the president's approval level is at a high. and the poll should show that the republicans are going to be blamed if we go over the cliff and taxes go up. that is before the debacle with

relating to the fiscal cliff is dana bash. she joins me now from washington. dana, great to see you again. tell me does even a band-aid approach work? >> it's going to be tough. this is all math. but it really has to do with the math with regard to votes. and democrats especially who i'm talking to in the senate which is probably where this will originate, the reality is that democrats don't hold a very big majority. her going to need to have a handful of republicans to cross party lines and vote with them on the whole concept of raising any taxes. especially what the president wants which is something that is raising taxes on all americans making more than $250,000. that's the senate. never mind the house, which of course, made clear to the house speaker that they won't even go for something that's a million dollars or more when it comes to tax increases. that was last week. >> dana, you were saying that when you were reporting on it when it was breaking that evening, you called that devastating for john boehner. now that house republicans have clearly rebelled against john boehner, can

getting used to the idea that a fiscal cliff solution will not happen before year end? >> only a few hours remain to finish your christmas shopping. but some words of caution for toymakers. are tablets and apps ruining the season as kids get more accustomed to technology? >> microsoft windows 8 gets more bad press today, as "the new york times" said it is not leading to a boost in pc sales. is there anything that can turn that lagging sector around? futures moving lower, as concerns about the fiscal cliff talks weigh on the market. talks about progress toward a deal sent the down lower by almost 521 points on friday. s&p up almost 14% on the year. it's interesting, this year we've had so many unnatural phenomenon taking place, whether it's the effects of the fed's monetary policy, year end, fiscal cliff tax related issues. the motivations are a little bit different this time around than they were last year. >> yeah. it's not as pressing, some would argue. some were actually saying on friday, maybe it would have been better if the markets had a sharper sell-off because that could have force

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fiscal cliff. two republican senators on the sunday talk shows yesterday say they agree with the president's position that both sides should avoid tax hikes on middle-class americans. also, nra executive said the group would not support any new gun laws in this country. good morning this monday, december 24, 2012. we will begin this morning with your thoughts on religion and politics. as a religion influence your political decisions? also send us your tweet if you go to twitter.com -- we will begin with the sunday review section of the "the new york times" yesterday. we want to get your take on this. it does religion influence your politics? with more people saying they are unaffiliated. we want to get your take. here are some comments from facebook this morning. what are your thoughts on this december 24, 2012. it does religion influence your politics? let me show you this from "the new york times" this morning. a new poll out worldwide religion shows up that one out of six follows no religion. that is worldwide. all religions outside the united states as well. the upi

the country to go off the fiscal cliff to gain political points are lawmakers playing chicken with your taxes? >>> and a winter storm may be headed your way. who may be getting a white christmas and what it means for your holiday travels. we'll have all of that, coming up. good morning, everybody. welcome to early start. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. john and zoraida are off. >> a developing story in afghanistan. an adviser to the afghan police has been shot and killed by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. the latest in the series of green on blue insider attacks and our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins us live with details on that. good morning. how unusual is this? >> well, alana, sadly this is a story we've report sod often during the year, haven't we? the details on this attack are different in one respect. as far as we know this is a case where a woman, an afghan woman in a police uniform conducted this shooting and killing. a contractor in cab uhl police headquarters. the nato alliance has already announced the incident but not said the

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the fiscal cliff, however, and that's the bad news. and looming tax hikes, spending cuts, all of that. both sides warning a very big deal becoming a bit more unlikely. >> and my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both. and he has put himself with plan b and sort of an impossible position. he has to get these hard right goes to go along with him. and he and the president were going to say we're going to pass a deal with the majority of republicans and the majority of democrats in the house and senate, we would get a mainstream deal. >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. the big deal for the big deal is at the debt ceiling. that's when we will have leverage to turn the country around. >> congress is now out of session for the christmas holiday. but expect it to be back thursday. joe, we talked to some of the senators and congress last week saying will you come back from vacation? some of them pretend like they weren't going, but i think they really were. >> if boehner's leadership is

and hoping for better times in the coming months. the big topic remains the fiscal cliff. we don't know if we can avoid it, yes or no. there's still some hope for a kind of a deal done in the next few trading days, but all the talk about the fiscal cliff is keeping the mood on wall street down. blue chips trading a bit lower and a mixed session with retailers. it looks like the christmas shopping season was not that stellar, at least for the traditional retailers. the fiscal cliff is the big topic and traders are hoping we resolve that in the next few days. >> after his singsong of waiting until the sun shines. christmas eve and the dow slipping just a little bit down. in the currency market, the euro against the dollar, $1.3187. final day of the festive shopping season, the biggest moneymaker for plenty of retailers, so how did this year's sales measure up? >> it will take time for the numbers to be processed, but most think it was better than average. >> germans use the remaining hours before the shops close to snap up last-minute gifts. the big department stores in frankfurt were chock ful

. stocks stumbled on wall street and talks stalled on the fiscal cliff. the dow dropped nearly 121 points on friday while the nasdaq fell 29. >>> as americans hit the road for holiday travel, they'll be paying let at the gas pump. according to aaa, the national average is about 3.25 cents a gallon for regular. that's down 16 cents from a month ago. >>> "the hobbit:an unexpected journey," took in $27 million. coming in second, $16 million. "this is it" took in $14 million. duarte? >> thank you, erica ferrari, here in new york. >>> in sports the seahawks put a damper on the 49ers' plan of winning the midwest. they have a field goal block. it's scooped up by the seahawks richard sherman who brings it back to 90 yards for a touchdown. seattle blows out san fran, 42-13. >>> and the baltimore ravens are the champions of the afc north. the ravens get on the board first with a touchdown grab by tore are smith. baltimore passes the giants for a 33-14 win. when we return, the holiday hit a high note. audiences around the world take part at an annual sing-a-long of a classic. ♪ now i can brew my c

comforts that town right now. also this morning, a rather dire prediction about the fiscal cliff and what might happen when lawmakers return later this week. it's a pocketbook issue for all of us. >> some people are expecting to maybe go right over that cliff. >> more likely than a couple days ago. >>> and later this half hour, the christmas edition of our insomniac play list. your favorites performed with an updated beat. putting a new spin on some of the old christmas classics. >> good to see ceelo hanging out with the muppets there. >>> topping our news right now, the nra is not backing down from its call to place armed officers in the nation schools. >> congressman chris murphy whose district includes newtown calls it tone deaf and also revolting. >> reporter: from the brooklyn bridge in new york to the sidewalks of falls church, virginia, anti-gun protests are springing up around the country. the debate on gun control has also triggered a run on gun shows and gun stores. sales are soaring as people rush to buy assault weapons before a possible ban. >> we're completely out of the so-c

on sunday on reaching a deal for the white house to avoid reaching the fiscal cliff. the president and congress on christmas vacation. it will be thursday before talks resume to try and prevent the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts from taking effect january the 1st. andrew spencer with the very latest from washington. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers say president wants the country to fall over the cliff. >> we were going over the cliff before. that's what the president wants. >> john boehner failed to get vets in on thursday. that would have raised taxes on people earning more than a million dollars a year. on friday speaker painer and the president left with no deal, each making a parting pitch. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle- class americans, protects insurance for 2 million americans and laze the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the president's -- it would hurt jobs. >> reporter: the partisan bickering has put the country on the brink of a potential economic crisis. some

house to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama and congress it will be thursday before talks resume to try and prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts from taking effect january first. andrew spencer has the latest. >> some republican lawmakers say old, once the country to fall off the physical cliff. >> we have gone over the cliff now, later, the fiscal cliff-you cannot negotiate with some of that does not want to negotiate. >> john boehner failed to get enough votes were planned beat that would raise taxes for people earning more than $1 million. the speaker, and the president left town without making a deal. >> i have passed leaders of congress to work together to create a deal to protect and employment for 2 million americans, protect middle america the middle income americans and also work on deficit reduction. >> the president solution would still leave red ink as far as the eye could see. and difficult for jobs. >> this is it difficult for the brink of perpetual gridlock. >> this is likely that we will go over the fiscal cliff and not and if we allow that to happen. wou

intractable debate and that's the fiscal cliff. congress has left town and there's no deal here. senator schumer, the president is now proposing a smaller deal. are we going to avoid the fiscal cliff by the first of the year or not? >> i hope so. if you look at the final positions last monday of both the president and speaker boehner, they were this close, they were this close to a solution. the president was about $200 billion higher on revenues, speaker boehner $200 billion higher on spending cuts. out of a $4 trillion budget, that doesn't seem insurmountable. so i hope they would keep talking. my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this -- you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both and he has put himself with plan b in sort of an impossible position. he has to get these hard right guys to go along with him. if he were to say and the president were to say we're going to pass a bill with a majority of democrats and majority of democrats in the house and senate we could get a mainstream bill. i know he's worried about his speakership but w

at sutter health are at odds over staffing levels and sick days. >>> the so called fiscal cliff is a few days away and there is no deal in sight. president barack obama is in hawaii for christmas, meanwhile house speaker house speaker john boehner is also on vacation. before vacation they each made one last pitch. >> we have a tax hike on middle- class americans... >> it would still be ready as far as the eye can see and it would hurt jobs. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, most americans will see higher taxes and most will feel the sting of harsh budget cuts. >>> holiday vandals hit a church in orange county, what has police launching an investigation . >>> coming up, alex savage would be live with more on a police investigation and it turned into a much bigger situation. >>> police say it happened near a catholic church. was swastikas -- swastikas were found in front of a priest's house. a nay safety scene has been nativity scene has been found in the past. >>> snow in the west could make for a white christmas on the east coast. snow has fallen up to a few inches in other parts of new

are responding. some spending less this holiday season as the fiscal cliff nears, others buying guns as that debate intensifies. fresh off the demand for armed guards in every school, wayne lapierre remained defiant in his one and only interview with david gregory. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, call me crazy. >> reporter: the nra leader wanted to discuss munitions. >> i don't believe that will make a difference. >> reporter: throughout the country some americans are responding, some buying weapons. >> i'm here to take advantage of an opportunity to do something about that before it happens. >> reporter: others protesting at gun shops. >> it's just not right. it's just insanity. insanity. >> reporter: on capitol hill lawmakers address how to address this issue as they face another problem, another stalemate in fiscal cliff negotiations. >> our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. >> reporter: confidence at a

. >> reporter: veronica, good morning. as that gun debate heats up, we are also approaching the fiscal cliff. we're talking about uncertainty now on two issues close to american's hearts and across the country people are responding. some spending less this holiday this season as the fiscal cliff nears and others buying guns as that intensifies. fresh off a demand for armed guards in school, nra's wayne lapierre remained defiant in his one and only interview with david gregory. >> if it's crazy for calling for armed police in our schools to protect our children, call me crazy. >> reporter: the nra's leader dismissed calls for weapons bans. >> reporter: americans are responding, some buying weapons. >> i'm here to take advantage of an opportunity to do something about that before it happens. >> reporter: others protesting at gun shops. >> it's just not right. it's just insanity. insanity. >> reporter: back on capitol hill lawmakers address how to address this prickly issue, another stalemate and fiscal cliff negotiation. >> our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are riskin

. talks to avert the fiscal cliff sal and washington debates how to prevent more mass murders. with nine days to go, is it still possible to make a deal to head off big tax increases and spending cuts? captioned by closed captioning services, inc. , republican john borasso and democrat kent conrad. >> as the nation mourns the victims of a newtown school shooting we turn to a man of faith for some answers. in these trying times he sees the need for a spiritual awakening. we will discuss the sandy hook massacre and the meaning of christmas. plus, a change at the state department as the benghazi report is finally released. we will ask our sunday panel about the nomination of john kerry to rehe place hillary clinton and where the investigation of the terror attack that killed four americans goes now. and our power player of the week continues his holiday tradition to show respect for veterans. all right now on "fox news sunday." hello again from fox news in washington. at christmas, people who are naughty get coal in their stockings and at the white house and congress -- if the white house a

. >> but, first, don't go looking up the chimney for a deal on the fiscal cliff. there are just eight days, that's it, until the deadline to reach a deal, and there was little progress as lawmakers left town for the holiday. before the president took off for his hawaiian vacation with his family on friday, he pressured kfshs to pass a smaller deal, to delay those automatic spending cuts and to extend tax cuts for all except for the wealthiest of americans. now, while senators on both sides of the aisle, they spoke in support of at least a smaller deal on sunday. joe lieberman seemed to have less hope. >> it's the first time that i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not, and that if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. maybe ever in american history because of the impact it will have on almost every american. >> kristen welker is nbc's white house correspondent, also traveling with the president in honolulu. kristen, explain to all of us because it appears the lights are out in w

much. lawmakers speaking out on this sunday about the looming fiscal cliff, at this moment the negotiations appear to be at a stand still, but we keep players in this on christmas break of course. and serious questions on whether compromise can be reached at all. as you probably know now, no deal would make a crippling amount of tax hikes and spending that could send us back into recession, you've heard that over and over. steve, at this point what are the chances that a grand bargain can still be struck? >> well, harris, it's possible, but getting less likely because it just really isn't a lot of time left. house speaker john boehner will be back next year and for now, he's thrown the ball into the democrats court and some republicans are saying the president isn't really trying to avoid that fiscal cliff. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all of this additional tax revenue for new programs and gets to cut the military which d

longest serving senator in u.s. history. >>> no deelt in sight an the fiscal cliff is less than a week away. they are arguing who is at fault for the disagreement. steve centanni is live with more. >> no agreement but plenty of talk. push for a plan b saying the ball is now in the democrat's court there has been no movement toward any kind of deal. republicans can't spending cuts and one key republican says what they need now is leadership. >> if you want leaders the president has been a pathetic fiscal leader. i would vote for revenues including tax hikes to keep the country from becoming greece. i am not going to set aside the 1.2 trillion in cuts. >> the president spoke out about the dpfiscal cliff on friday focusing his goals on middle class tax cuts not some kind of bargains. his supporters should find it no surprise to any one he wants people above tacks. >> he won 60 percent of the voters stharp for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> the focus shift to go the u.s. senate where few republicans are backing democratic plan to take some kind of actions before the de

taxes. apparently a fiscal cliff solution is not wrapped up as a gift under your christmas tree. makers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho republican was taken to jail in alexandria virginia after midnight. he was stopped for running a red light and charged with driving under the influence. the senator has issued an apology. he was released on $1,000 bond and he has a court date. >>> christmas, two days away, and for much of the country it's going to be a white one. heavy snowfall has blanketed several states up to five feet of snow is expected. snow is also falling back east as well. like lake effect snow has blanketed areas around cleveland and buffalo. high winds are threatening to delay flights in new york, philadelphia and washington. >>> the report you're about to see has very graphic images of people hurt

. glad to be here. >> senator, there's a lot of talk about the fiscal cliff shifting to the senate. that's where a solution should be worked on. what have you been heard from your leadership on that? >> well, i think that everyone is going back to the drawing boards. i had hoped that we would be able to take speaker boehner's plan b and work on that with the democrats, and then maybe come to terms before we broke for christmas. to make sure the tax increases that would occur at the end of the year won't -- and something that hasn't talked too much is it would make permanent the child tax credit, the marriage penalty relief, the amt relief, things that middle-class families need to continue. all of that will go you have if we don't do something by the end of the year. >> are you hearing from leadership it will be taken up, something does need to cobble together? >> i know our leader are trying. >>> what about vice president biden, you worked with him for 15 years. he and biden worked very well together in the fiscal negotiations last time. should you bring in biden into the conversation h

until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off, the president urged congress that pass a scaled-back stop-gap measure. >> senators agreed on sunday to pass -- >> i think unfortunately there will only be a small deal. >> it is going to be a patch. >> kristin welker, traveling with the president in honolulu. the question is will he be cutting hi vacation short? does he have a royal to play? or is it up to the senate, as some are saying? >> reporter: first of all, i think it is likely we'll see him cut his vacation short. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to work together. a lot of focus shifts to mcdonnell. he has to try to get something that will pass with republicans that they can get through the house and senate, but i think president obama certainly has a role to play. remember, he is the one who ran on the platform. >>> you heard him map out on friday. he would like a scaled-back version of the grand bargain, something to preve

this -- the president wants this country to go off the fiscal cliff, to have a sunset when it comes to our fiscal situation is that really what's going on here? lawmakers are on vacation, so will anything get done in time? >>> lots of people on vacation, dana. a winter storm may be headed your way. for all of the people traveling, 93 million americans on trains, planes, and automobiles. what it means for your holiday travel plans. good morning, welcome to "starting point." chilly in new york city. 7:00 in the morning. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. monday, december 24th. christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >> and our "starting point," a u.s. contractor in kabul gunned down and killed this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters. the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks that are hitting morale and eroding trust in allies there. our pentagon correspond respondent barbara starr up early for us working her sources. joins us live from washington with more. >> good morning, alina.

. >> reporter: meanwhile some senators are suggesting the only option now to avoid a fiscal cliff is a scaled-back deal to stop tax increases for most americans. we just hear heard heard ed elude to that. we are joined my jaime. what happens if the president and congress fail to reach an agreement on averting this so-called fiscal cliff? >> well, we go over it. you know, maybe the analogy of fiscal cliff that everyone is using might not be perfect because that doesn't end everything. there will be negotiations afterwards. in fact republicans who think that we are going overlook to the debt ceiling hike that will have to happen some time in the beginning of next year, perhaps at the end of january, or early february, at the point where negotiations will really pick up again, because they'll have some leverage there. there are reports out that some agencies, the defense department, that are facing these cuts as a result of the fiscal cliff are planning already ahead knowing that there will be negotiations afterwards if no deal is reached, and believing that some type of remedy will occur. they

on the fiscal cliff. have you got your holiday shopping done yet? are you done? >> gretchen: i am waiting for three things to come in the mail that they might not arrive. >> i an alert said winter weather causing shipping delays. >> if you are worried about your packages in christmas eve, you delayed yourself. >> gretchen: blame the weather guy. l>> i ordered it on friday. >> gretchen: merry christmas . still no deal in sight just more of the same way blame game . e week before the taxes are going to sky rocket. steve is live in washington. >> good morning, gretchen and everybody. washington is shut down for the christmas holiday . when everybody does come back to town, the ball will be in the democrat's court because speaker boehner was unable to bring his on board. for the plan b. >> onous is on senator reid and the president to come up with a solution and present it to the house and get back to the bargaining table. >> now the president has insisted on a tax hike for the healthy but wants that at $250,000 or $400,000 and not one mill yen and even though the president scaled back his ex

, barbara. appreciate it. >>> both sides on the fiscal cliff debate finally agree on something. unfortunately, they agree that going over the fiscal cliff is now a real possibility. you got the democrats, the white house republicans. they all say it is possible they're not going to reach a deal to avoid the massive tax increases and spending cuts that will take place in just eight days brianna keeler is in honolulu. i'm not going to tease you about hawaii being a junket, because i know it's hard work and you're doing something. >> thank you. >> absolutely. i'm a little jealous of the water and backdrop and sand. never mind. i won't hate here. tell us, are there any conversations that are going on between the president, the republicans, the democrats, anybody to aavoid the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: well, this is what may be alarming to learn, suzanne. obviously, the white house is always in concert with senate democrats. there's always an open line of communication there, but there are really no substantive discussions going on with the white house and senate democrats with rep

to be here. >> so does all the drama over the fiscal cliff and uncertainty about the economy weigh on consumers? how are you expecting the season to play out? >> well, i don't have any doubt that it does weigh on consumers, it's in the news constantly, people are worried about it, but having said that, we're talking about christmas here. this is no minor holiday. so christmas is going to come on tuesday. it is christmas day. and consumers have to get shopping. and the last thing that parents want to cut back on is the toy is the holiday present for their child for christmas. >> true. so i want to go through the toys you brought. what are you expecting in terms of this christmas holiday shopping season? anything we should look at as far as the real gauges? >> well, you know, it's all going to come down to the last weekend, to the last few days. >> even christmas eve. >> even christmas eve. and toys"r"us, just to make sure, we are open 24 hours all the way through until 10:00 p.m. christmas eve night. so there's still plenty of time, if you haven't bought the toy, get out there now,

strike. >>> a key senator weighs in on the fiscal cliff and why he is confident a deal will be made before the year ends. . >>> thousands of registered nurses plan to walk out of bay area sutter health hospitals on christmas eve of the one-day strike is part of an ongoing battle between the california nurses association over health benefits and sick days. you are looking at video of their last picket about a month ago. all of hospitals plan to have fill-in nurses. >> a key senator express optimism that congress will avoid the fiscal cliff before the year ends. >> speaker boehner was $200 billion higher on spending cuts and out of a $4 trillion budget that doesn't seen insurmountable so i hope they keep talking. >> congress is expected to be back in session thursday and without a deal, tax hikes and deep spending cuts will be triggered on january 1st. >>> coming up tonight on the 10:00 news from flooded roadways to sinkholes. >>> our stormwatch coverage continue as a powerful storm leaves behind a mess in the bay area. >> thank you for trusting ktvu channel 2 news. >> we'll see

speaki. speaking out on the fiscal cliff. at this moment the negotiations appear to be on a stand still they keep all of this on christmas break. serious questions on whether compromise can be reached at all. you should know by now no deal would meet a crippling addition of tax hikes and spending cuts that could plunge our economy back. steve at this point what are the chances that a grand bargain can still be struck? >> it is possible it is getting less likely. there isn't a lot of time left. house speaker john boehner will be back but for now he's throwing the ball in the democrat's court. some republicans are saying the president isn't trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> when i listen to the president i think he's eager to go over for a political purposes. he gets all of this additional tax revenue for programs he gets to cut the military canwhich democrats have been calling for for years. he gets to blame republicans for it. >> independent senator joe leiber than is saying it is appearing more likely the deadline will pass with no action. harris? >> how soon can we expect negotiati

for that. >>> it is 5:17 now. >>> a bleak outlook for avoiding the fiscal cliff. with the new year approaching washington's failure to reach a compromise is affect americans' confidence. taxes will go up on january 1st if they don't reach a deal. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work toward -- it protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and laze the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the president's solution of raising tax rates would still be ready as far as the eye can see and hurt jobs. >> president obama said he will cut his hawaiian vacation short to hammer out a deal with congress with the deadline a short week away. >>> 5:18 now. >>> the nra is adamant about its idea of placing armed guards in the nation's schools. >> this comes as diane fine stein promises to introduce new gun control legislation in the new year. the head of the nra put the game on violent video games and problems with the mental health system insisting another assault weapons ban is not the answer. >> it doesn't work. diane fine stein had her ban, and c

's talk a little bit about the fiscal cliff. you know, the speaker took a deal to the president, and then took it to his own caucus, and he didn't have the votes. he couldn't deliver the votes to guarantee his own proposal. what happens now? >> well, i think it's important for us to note that the house has acted already. the house, we've passed sequestration on four occasion. we've extend all the tax cuts and now we wait for a response from the other side. we stand prepared to be here in washington whenever the president or the senate has a proposal that we can take and act on. >> schieffer: but, you know, congressman, i mean, with all respect, it seems like both sides are saying, "well, we're waiting for them. we're waiting for this. we're waiting for that." the fact is nothing ever gets done. is this actually going to stand in do you thing congress, democrats, republicans, senate and the house, will let us go over this so-called fiscal cliff? >> that's a really good question. it's one of the reasons i'm pretty excited about the fact we already acted. we acted several months ag

>>> maybe eight days and counting before a fiscal cliff. will a shift too the senate save the day? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial servic

on the fiscal cliff deadline on december 31st. retiring senator joe lieberman puts the potential failure in historic perspective. >> i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military, which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> so, hey, merry christmas. our white house correspondent brianna keilar is traveling with the president in honolulu. brianna, are the white house and republicans even talking? >> reporter: no. they're not, carol. there's no substantive discussions going on between the white house and senate democrats and senate republicans and house republicans. and this is key because in order for the cliff

, various tax breaks slipping away. in other words what we're calling the fiscal cliff. a plan to stop it all from happening still alludes washington, so congress has broken camp for the holidays and the president has gone to holiday on vacation. brianna keilar is out there for us in honolulu, eight days away from the fiscal cliff. are there any contacts occurring on this topic between the president and anyone in congress, briana? >> reporter: there is an open line of communication, i would say, with senate democrats, hala. but there is really no substantive conversations between the folks that you with need for there to be conversations between in order to strike a deal. the white house and congressional republicans, and perhaps more alarmingly, senate democrats are not in conversations right now with senate republicans or with house republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on

is running out to avert the fiscal cliff of tax increases in domestic programs cuts in january. some members of congress are concerned that a deal can't be reached. >> we are going to go over the cliff now because that is what the president wants. you cannot negotiate with someone who does not want to negotiate. >> president obama is and why you right now and will be cutting his vacation short. we will see the taxes go up if we do go over the fiscal cliff. palin a nurses' strike thousands of nurses walked off the job today at nine bay area hospitals. nurses with a center helps halt the bay summit medical center are asking for a negotiated labor contracts and improvement in patient care protections. such as staffing levels, a health benefits, and sick days. strikers a hospital officials want to reduce the number of paid sick days for nurses and technicians while maintaining health care coverage for those who work fewer than 30 hours a week. >> we're looking at power outages this morning all across the bay area. here's a look at the numbers. in the north bay 1075 people are without power. on t

the fiscal cliff continues and we will get you closer to the opening bell and we will have a closer indication of where they will start. if you have some shopping to do, you are not alone. 10% of all americans say they will be at the malls today and they are open. they actually like the energy of shopping right up into the last minute. i must say they hate the crowds but they couldn't get out to the stores any sooner. >> okay, good luck to you. >>> it is the last full week for the explore tore yum and -- for exploring and that's because they will move to pier 15. the operation is scheduled for january 22nd and the mission will be free and the new location is schedule to open on january 15thth. >> you have to go. >> yes, i will check it out. >>> 5:19, a new school in the south bay will teach more than english science and math, why students are expected to do their job. >>> and we have a golden opportunity to clinch the division title. >>> and you can wake up every morning and get the morning's top stories sent straight to your cell phone and you can get your wake-up call by texting t

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back from the fiscal cliff why congress may be selling the new year on capitol hill. >> first america's money report. >>> good morning. topping america's money, last minute shopping, many shoppers haven't finished. consumer reports says 17 million will be shopping today, more than 60% will throw in the towel and get those gift cards. so far, a quiet holiday season at the malls, analysts say shoppers are worried about the budget stalemate in washington delayed by superstorm sandy and depressed by the connecticut school shooting. retailers hope today will make up for that many federal workers have more time to shop, president obama gave them today off, many government offices are closed. financial markets closing early as are most post offices. the hobbit topped box office again for the second straight weekend, it took in 37 million dollars more than double any other movie even though many did their last minute shopping instead that's . >>> just about 5:14 thank you spore spending your christmas eve with us. live look towards san francisco, beautiful lights, bay, rain is going to take a

the fiscal cliff. >>> welcome back. let's take a look at live doppler and satellite, a few radar returns over the ocean, a few clouds dry everywhere this morning. clouds getting thick in the form of fog around napa. getting a break our next system the screen to our west that means today is about it as far as dry weather. low to mid 40s through the morning, low to mid 50s from noon to 4:00, partly cloudy, babble in the low to mid 40s by 7:00 under a partly cloudy sky. >>> keeping an eye on the commute this morning, skardzly a commute to speak of. >> very few cars but still problems. this westbound 80 at university avenue in the berkeley area, there is an accident reported there it has been moved to the median or it is in the median and maybe causing delays there. another look 120 within between 116 and 37 in the north bay -- flooding there and we are told 121 is closed in that area start thinking about alternate routes. also 101 heading into san francisco from marin county, live shot, headlights heading towards us, guess what folks? not a problem. narry an issue here. >>> 6:11, ahead, optimism

who coined the phrase fiscal cliff. he says if we fall off of it in seven or eight days, that's going to lead to yet another recession. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in

are growing more skeptical that a budget agreement can be reached. >> before we go over the fiscal cliff, negotiations. >> president obama is in hawaii for christmas. and says he'll cut his vacation short to try and hammer out a deal with congress. the deadline. now a week away. if congress fails to reach any agreement, income tax rates will go up on just about everyone on january 1st. unemployment benefits will expire for many as well. >> thousands of nurses will walk off the job today at nine bay area hospitals. nurses with sutter health's alta bates summit medical center are asking for negotiated labor contracts and improvements in patient care protections. such as staffing levels, health benefits, and sick days. strikers say hospital officials want to reduce the number of paid sick days for nurses and technicians, while eliminating health care coverage for those who work fewer than 30 hours a week. >> we will be right back. thousands of palestinians and international tourists are visiting bethlehem to visit christmas. and to celebrate-christmas. this is live at the we will be right b

fiscal cliff. >> the president was about 200 billion higher on revenues. boehner 200 billion higher on spending cuts. out of a trillion dollar budget that doesn't seem unsurmountable so i would hope they would keep talking. >> congress is expected to be back in session by thursday. without a deal tax hikes for all americans and deep spending cuts will be triggered on january 1st. >>> the head of the national rifle association today defended his group's refusal to consider any form of gun control. >> look a gun is a tool. the problem is the criminal. every police officer that walks the street knows if you want to control violent crime take violent criminals off the street. >> on friday the nra called for armed guards in schools as the best way to prevent shootings like the one in newtown connecticut. today warner a supporter of gun ownership called for mental health care as a way to protect schools. >>> religion leaders prayed for peace and called for action to prevent gun violence. church members held sunday service then a town hall forum to answer questions and spark discussion. ac

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